south korea, north korea have been able to at least come together with regards to the olympics. but, believe it or not that can lead to negotiations on these more important issues related to the nuclear development of north korea, i think that still remains a big question mark. neil: all right. so, leon panetta still has doubts. the latest kumbayah at the olympics between the south and north and of course that convention and that group photo where the vice-president was literally within a few inches of kim jong-un s sister, and they ignored each other, similarly at a big din-din. who is playing whom here? gordon chang, and the author of scary neck of the woods there. and you and i were chatting, it was a no-win president to be in here, but it played into the