Reporter. She is the coauthor of our exclusive nbc news report from just last night on Robert Mueller asking witnesses if trump knew with these hacked democratic emails before they were released. Also back with us, jeremy bash, former chief of staff at the cia and pentagon. And we welcome back to the program, cynthia alneya, a federal prosecutor and a Justice Department veteran. Welcome to you all. Carol, about tonights story, what is its central impact the your view . Well, as you mentioned, this hacking and leaking strategically is the worst part. So this is significant in the sense we knew this was happening. But if mueller decides to move forward with an indictment, to me the key question is whether or not there are any americans that are tied to this. Its one thing for him to indict russians who will probably never be extradited and come over and
stand trial in the United States. Its an entirely different ball game if there are americans named or unnamed should he decide to do an
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members of the president s base agreeing with him on that and also animates the republicans who see the courts and see the supreme court as a reason to vote for president trump, a reason to vote for him even if they don t like him. the president realizes that he is able to reshape much of the judiciary, that s something that s important to conservative voters and because this issue touches on the supreme court, an issue to take to the voters and not only get support from his very strong base but also from moderate republicans and the wide swath of the republican party, the president likes the idea to talk about the supreme court, that people are talking about justice kavanaugh who he thinks got a raw deal and have been falsely accused. so the president saying the justice department should rescue kavanaugh. unclear what he means there. there s press department for the president pressuring the department of justice to take action against the political opponents. look at the time/warner
is this more about 2020 base politics than the process here? to be clear, the chances that justice kavanaugh s impeached, removed from the supreme court by impeachment are very, very small. the chances that this is an issue in the 2020 election i think are pretty large. underscores for these candidates the importance of the presidency in terms of shaping the supreme court. it energizes democrats, probably also republicans, though, who say that justice kavanaugh s getting a raw deal here. you say this is a fight that the president relishes. i think that s pretty clear from his tweet this is morning. he even goes so far to say that kavanaugh s the one being assaulted. that s right. we have seen the president and the entire me too moment really come to defend the men who are being accused of misconduct and say that the movement has gone too far and that actually the men are the victims and he s tried to appeal to his base, this issue both touches on the