works. mr. canad s program works, the kip schools work, there are some other schools that work very effectively. what i think duncan is trying to do secretary duncan, i should say, and i hope what he s trying to do is to say that the money should follow the effectiveness. and that people, for example, if they want money from the federal government, they need to do things that we know are effective and accountable. the american people, if you poll them, are glad to pay more for education just like most parents are, if they think it will work. and if you can show them it will work, they ll open their checkbooks. so to that point then, because let s take this a little bit more broad now, i think you re right about what he is doing with this overhaul of no child left behind. they are certainly angering many of their supporters in the democratic parent by going down this path. right. what i mean what s key? what is their sort of biggest hurdle that they have to overcome here that yo
using private dollars instead of just giving kids a little bit when they need a lot. so, bill, how do you deal with this? not every locality is going to be able to pull off what you ve done is extraordinary, but how do you replicate this on a massive scale when it requires an enormous amount of private funding and given the current challenges we re facing? well, i think two things. it s important to point out this happens and where it happens because there are people who don t believe that kids in harlem are just going to succeed, they re not going to close that gap, and if my research is right, the gap there is no gap between the kids in your program and the white children, for example, in new york city. in many cases exceeding even better. the second point is money. and this is often about a contention when republicans and democrats, otherwise. the american people are prepared to spend money on education. what they re tired of, spending a lot of money on education that doesn t