notorious white supremacists, but it may not be over for them. regarding the federal counts that the jury was not able to reach verdicts on. the plaintiffs attorneys told us they are going to try to bring those cases again. fpz. brian todd, an important case, thank you very much. let s get more on the breaking news with jeffrey toobin. also joining us is jonathan greenblat. and ellie reeve in sc charlottesville. jonathan, four years after the deadly rally, what was going through your mind today learning a about this verdict? well, it s interesting because four years ago, no one would have imagined you d see one of the largest demonstration its we saw in america in decades play out the way this it did. but four years later, make no mistake, the ramifications of
how are you reflect ing as yu watch the country grapple with these issues that we have been seeing. the rittenhouse trial, the trial that s taking place down in georgia, regarding the killing of ahmaud arbery, as jeffrey was saying, we do have this problem. it s just staerring us in the face. are we as a society tackling it to a sufficient degree? i think jeffrey is raising the right question. charlottesville brought us pittsburgh, el paso, capitol hill, and so much more. we need elected officials on both sides of the aisle to call this kind of hate out when it happens. i think the rise of vigilanteism, the normalization of violence, the emergence of armed militias. every american knows a about the proud boys. these are groups that weren t on the radar a few years ago.
they lost earnings. we did that it 30, 40 years ago. i think today this will be a deterrent to future graups but here s the challenge that we have. extremism has been normalized and still amplified in large part because of social media. and if you think this wasn t a problem, i would say to you, there s a through line from charlottesville to capitol hill. so now we need to turn ore attention to the social media companies, where the extremists can amplify their ideas, where they still organize through platforms like facebook groups and as they are held accountable, now i think the government is regulating the social media platforms where these conspiracies have been able not just to take route, but planned and implemented by bad actors. and there were no large scale trials of these rally organizers by either the trump or biden
center won a similar lawsuit against the kkk, and that actually did cripple the kkk. and so i think people should recognize that there really will be consequences, even if these it full verdict amounts will photo be paid. you covered this rally as it unfolded with the disturbing chants. and then as it turned deadly, you saw what happened up close. how big of a blow is this verdict to some of the white supremacists? you have covered them since what happened in charlottesville. what drought think the effect will be? reporter: in 2017 they are at a the height of their power. and they were happy to let me know how smart they thought they were. but nearly every defendant i talked to said that it the alt-right is dead. but the online movement that was very obsessed with trump is gone. almost every group involved in