some of then went to mitch mcconnell. started to say, well this wasn t right. then they didn t take the off ramp. in my fantasy, mike pence, for example, who trump wanted to harm, he could have led that. they could have turned back against autocracy and further destruction. instead, not only did they double down, in the summer of 22, 2022, the gop actually declared that january 6th was, quote, legitimate political discourse. i read that as them saying that violence is a valid way to do politics. and the coup was something that they approved of, and is now part of their dna. ruth, it s symone sanders-townsend. can we talk about the role that everyday citizens play in this? i heard jon meacham say yesterday, and i repeated today on my show, that the question is, what kind of democracy will weigh the? are we amateur democracy that enforces its rules and laws?
violence is a valid way to do politics. and the coup was something that they approved of, and is now part of their dna. ruth, it s symone sanders-townsend. can we talk about the role that everyday citizens play in this? i heard jon meacham say yesterday, and i repeated today on my show, that the question is, what kind of democracy will weigh the? are we amateur democracy that enforces its rules and laws? are we an immature democracy, that will choose chaos over the constitution? the people here do have the power. it s not a four bound conclusion that donald trump will be the republican nominee. let alone, president again. what will be the voters, the people of america, play in this? i m glad you asked me that. because it s easy to be very gloomy, and frightened about
the evening. thankfully, nobody was hurt. sara. all right. thank you so much. evan perez outside the white house, appreciate it. poppy. this morning president biden and house speaker kevin mccarthy say yesterday s debt ceiling meeting was productive. so that s good. they still don t have a deal to raise the debt ceiling. we are nine days away, folks, from a catastrophic default. they remain at odds over caps on future spending and tougher work requirements for federal aid programs, right, like medicaid, food stamps, et cetera. joining us now is the president of the minneapolis federal reserve, one of 12 fed officials with a vote on interest rates. we will get to that in a moment as well. your next meeting is weeks from today. good to have you. thank you for coming back. good to see you. we will get to fed rates in a moment. take us inside the fed if you could. what are the conversations you guys are having on a possible u.s. default? it s very concerning. we have a mission to
that means the american public will not be able to watch the hearing, though, poppy. and don, we should note. of course, there will be still photographers in the room at the beginning, so we will see some photos of trump in the room. there just aren t going to be those cameras after we did say yesterday, trump s team argued against having them in there. a lot of folks did want them though. even you know , some folks, we respect a lot, andrew mccabe said. i thought it would cut down on the part of the media organizations that you know we have won it. but but for anyone who says, well, we re not going to know what set in court. yes you can. you can read the entire transcript of what happens in thatttroombut,, it wl to see let s bring it now cnn political commentator and former special adviser to president barack obama, mr van jones. former trump campaign adviser. republican strategist, mr david urban. he doesn t say my name that way, poppy heart. uh but listen, we need a little levity be
these people coming and asking for asylum, they are not asking asylum what it is doing to the system, it is broken. the border is officially broken at this point. carley: arts, the biden administration is asking for $4 billion to combat illegal immigration once title 42 is repealed. $2 billion for ice with care and processing. but outside the money, the biden administration hasn t said anything how they will deal with this increased number of people trying to come across. karine jean-pierre did say yesterday, they are working to combat misinformation that the border is open. well, the misinformation has been pushed from this administration for some time now think the border is secure and the reality is it hasn t been secure since this administration took over. it has been chaotic from day