national security, do people really need to know? is there some line out there? so, i think there is an ethical line. and i ve criticized wikileaks for publishing, for example, information from john podesta s e-mail inbox that had no public interest or from the dnc. but that s not what they re talking about. that s not illegal to publish to make a bad editorial judgment. what they re talking about is publishing top secret information from the cia, from the pentagon, and that s when you get into the traditional reporting that the the new york times and the washington post and nbc news does all the time. you know, i was a little bit suspicious listening to his response about whether assange should be charged or not. i m suspicious, only suspicious listen to the director today there is a sealed indictment for him. are you at all suspicious there is a sealed indictment? completely. he said, you know, they said why haven t you prosecuted julian assange. he didn t say heare are t