and then you come out. and it was during covid, and so maggie wasn t allowed to come into the doctor s office, and so she sat in the car, and i had left pills in the computer bag and sitting out there bored i guess she started looking at my computer and found them in the computer bag, so she found those pills. so she obviously told paul and paul texted you about finding those pills. that s correct. in may of 2021. that s correct. and you ve heard your sister-in-law testify that maggie called him the little detective about the pills. you heard that in this courtroom? i did hear that. so did they start to watch you like a hawk and get on you about your pill usage during the month of may? no. they did not?
found pills, is that correct? there were a number of times where mags found pills, pau-pau found pills, bus found pills. i mean, it was an ongoing it was just an ongoing battle for me. and after they found those pills in may, that being maggie and paul, were they trying to get you to self-detox? no, sir, not at that point in time. they just let it go? no, they didn t let it go. but at that point in time pau-pau and i had already had a discussion based on, i can t remember exactly when it was, but there had been a previous occasion a good while back
paul and i had had a long talk, and we d agreed i d agreed and i detoxed so many times. i d been to detox. i detoxed at home with maggie s help. i detoxed at home with doctor s help. i detoxed on my own, tried to. and it just just detoxing just didn t work. it just you couldn t you could detox, but you couldn t not you i couldn t. i couldn t stay off of them, and so i promised paul that as soon
all right, tell me about what happens next. tell me about how maggie and paul end up down at the kennels. i m not i m still not absolutely certain exactly how they ended up at the kennel, but in looking at the time frames, and looking at the gps points, i think i pretty well know, because i wasn t sure if maggie had walked to the kennels or ridden to the kennels and i wasn t exactly sure how paw paw got there, but i m all but certain that maggie and paul went to the kennel together. all right. and what was the discussion? you said that they were going down there, but you didn t want to go, is that right? maggie. what i said is maggie asked me to go to the kennels with her, and i wasn t going to go. i said i m not going to go.
entered into evidence that was a text are from paul to you. i did. in which he said that maggie found pills your nor bag. right. you asked me about paul finding them, but it was maggie that found them. fair enough so it was maggie who found them? yes, sir. but paul was the one who reached out to you, correct? on that occasion, yes, sir. and what was the discussion after that? i can t remember exactly what it was, but it was about that i had eye surgery the i don t know what day it was. days before that. the day maggie found them, maggie drove me to the doctor to have my cataract removed, whatever they call that surgery, i can t remember, but i had a cataract taken out, outpatient. you go in for a couple of hours,