africa, the saw hill is a place of important counter terrorism interests and the horn of africa. the u.s. has interests there and the question is what does this do to us down the road and i say that china is out-playing us, beating us. trump is just giving them a gift today and making it so easy for african leaders to say you know what? we don t want to be part of this. we won t be with the united states. in my travels in africa, i see a huge amount of people that admire the united states. i don t know if that s the same thing in five or ten years continuing to have this rhetoric from the oval office unchecked. in addition to delivering a personal message of hatred to millions of people around the world and in the united states, he delivered a gift to the chinese today. the president did. brian and karine, thank you both for joining us tonight. really appreciate it. thank you, lawrence. coming up, president trump and steve bannon appear to be in all-out war with each other. we ll
just hates everything about it. and the chinese are in there doing business. good day for the chinese. it is, indeed. china essentially in competing for the countries offers infrastructure investments and what the u.s. is offered in part has been our soft power. our culture, our democracy, our history that people truly admire, and we just took a bludgeon to our soft power in africa and indeed in many other countries around the world. brian, talk about that for a moment because i don t think that s something that this white house has been able to get into the president s head at all. why the chinese are so interested in africa in a way that donald trump isn t. well, it s the emerging frontier for geo-politics, a place of huge growth, some of the highest growth countries in africa and also you have security concerns. right? yes. hugely important places in africa, the saw hill is a place of important counter terrorism interests and the horn of africa. the u.s. has interests ther