russian citizens in third countries. instead, russia s seizing american citizens inside russia and basically kidnapping them for these kinds of prisoner swaps. and it s essentially being successful because these prisoner swaps keep going through and the u.s. is put in a bind because these people are wrongfully detained. we do want them back. what do you do when you re dealing with a state, a government that kidnaps your citizens and uses them as basically negotiating chips? thank you both so much for joining us. the man accused of shooting and killing seven people at a fourth of july parade in illinois is facing 117 new charges. a grand jury indicted the suspect yesterday on 21 counts of first-degree murder, three counts for each victim. meantime, kimmie roberts, the
julia, jason used the word wrongfully detained here. there s a big difference between what whelen and griner s purported crimes and those of this arms dealer and what he was convicted of. exactly who is the russian prisoner the u.s. is offering to swap? viktor bout is a notorious arms dealer. he was caught in a sting operation in thailand. and one of the reasons the russian government has been so adamant about his release is not so much they love viktor bout the person, although he certainly has ties to the russian government, it s that he set he represents something the russian government doesn t like, which is that the american agency, the dea, can trap russians in third countries. which the russian government does not do to americans. to them, it s a precedent they want overturned and they want the dea reined in to not seize
you can trust this group is going to stay on trump, considering he plans to continue hosting this tournament with the saudi arabian government. certainly probably going to come up if he decides to run for president again. what can you tell us also about others who are seeing controversy as a result of this? i know some golf players are really trying to distance themselves from this tour, but others are signing on. yes, quite a few, including stars like phil mickelson. and the family members are calling these individuals out and trying to hold them accountable. there s going to be a protest outside of the tournament as well as press conferences helping those who are planning to attend know what it is that is funding this event and hopefully the thought is that this could change the minds and hearts and maybe even some actions of these golf players and their fans. eugene scott, thank you so much. good to be with you.
tour, the organizers and those involved have faced a wave of controversy. joirning us is eugene scott, national political reporter for the washington post. why is this tournament so controversial and what are these protesters calling for? these protesters really want this tournament canceled. there s been significant frustration among survivors and family members of 9/11 victims with the trump family and organization for continuing to host these tournaments being funded by the saudi arabian government considering recently released information from the biden administration about the saudi government s role in the 9/11 attacks. they feel as if their voices aren t being heard, that this is insensitive and it s mostly a money grab for the trump organization. what are these survivors and family members of those who lost their lives saying about the phenomenaler president hosting this tournament? well, they re saying that he is ignoring previous meetings with the group leaders where