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then collect information and they infect your networks. they don t want to disclose themselves until they are ready to attack and when they attack they will most likely be a multi pronged attack. we saw that happen in ukraine. we ve seen that happen in georgia. they ll attack power, critical infrastructure, financial, media, government, all simultaneously as a way to project power and to coordinate with their other operations including disinformation and military operations. so just because we can t see anything visibly happening here aggressively in the u.s. at this moment doesn t mean the campaign has not begun. which is sobering to think about as you said even though we can t see it or the effects of it obviously the adage here is stay tuned. thank you so much. really appreciate it. thanks for having me. after weeks of being locked down there may be a glimmer of hope for shanghai residents.

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