visuals of that at some level are a win for him and, to give him credit, it would be a historic credit on its face, an american president sating down face-to-face with a north korean leader. what comes of it, how engaged people are on these foreign policy, global politics of north korea and the korean peninsula i m not totally sure. but that visual he wants, quite clearly. and i think if he gets it, yes, it would be a win. jennifer, do you see a win for the president? i think that that could be a positive development for him, maybe eve an win. i m with general hayden that i m pleased to see the president take it down a notch with expectations. assuming he doesn t go in, making a broad assumption, making a deal where we re not in a situation where we have to be