night. what they don t know is we re sitting like or maybe they don t or they sort of don t. we re sitting like 10, 15 feet away from each other in the studio and i have to pretend would you like me to read the tweet? now that it s my hour we can put it in public record. that is awesome and hilarious, and i m sorry the studio and viewing public could hear me chortling. and thanks to you at home for joining us this evening. we have some big breaking news. nbc news has now confirmed that former president mike pence has now been subpoenaed by special counsel jack smith, the man who was overseeing the investigation into trump s efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 election including at the u.s. capitol. the news was first reported by abc news. we don t know exactly what information was sought in that subpoena, but according to abc it comes after months of negotiations between federal prosecutors and pence s legal team. but the office and spokesman for the former
maga republican or average person still on that committee feels any need to listen to them. i wonder if they ve been given enough of a chance to scold the radical paranoid theorists among them. i wonder what happened at the state of the union when mitt romney effectively cows george santos and, and santos comes out looking like the loser in this interaction, right? the force of statesmans words, the force of elders of the party matters when those words are delivered forcefully. and wonder if you think that we re going to hear more of that? is mitt romney for lack of a better term unleashed at this stage of the game when he sees what s becoming of the party? you have special access to the man, you re writing a book about him. just how animated is he by this? yeah, i think what struck me about that moment with george
simply comply wg the law, it s not my idea here, but i have no choice. i want to ask both of you what you would ask mike pence. given the interviews he s sat for, the op-ed he s penned, the book he s written. carol leonnig, what are your top of mind questions for the vice president if you were an investigator with the doj? you re so right that so what of pence experienced that day has been reported in pages of my newspaper and books. to me it s critical that jack smith wants pence in an interview room to get more deeply into what the president said to him, what the president said, what words they exchanged. and that goes to ultimately former president donald trump s state of mind as he was pulling all of these different levers, increasingly, desperately trying
what role romney may have played in forces in the gop. i m going to leave it there. go ahead. yeah, let s leave it. it makes sense. the book i assume you finished writing it so you know what s in there. we re going to read it and have you back. thank you for joining. always good to see you. you, too. we have still more to come tonight including the potential bombshell decision expected out of the federal court in texas one that could upend the lives of millions as soon as tomorrow. you don t want to miss that story. and turmoil at the supreme court has put a spotlight on the fact that justices themselves aren t bound by a particular code of ethics. we ll talk to someone who has a plan to fix all that. that s coming up next. that s coming up next.
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