and it s a laughing stock. reporter: now, in the press briefing just now, sarah sanders still insisted the president is not politicizing this tragedy. saying there is a difference between playing politics and discussing policy. this in spite of the fact that the president took to twitter to call out chuck schumer as well as democrats more broadly in the wake of this attack in new york, jake. all right. sara murrayy, thanks so much. lots to discuss with my terror panel. phil mudd, juliette kayyem, the former assistant secretary in the department of homeland security and retired congressman mike rogers. phil, let me start with you. does the diversity visa lottery do any good? is it worth considering the u.s. getting rid of it? look, this is a very for politicians and for americans thinking about american culture as an immigrant society. as a counterterrorism professional, i don t think people in my industry would view people coming into that program as a particular threat. if you l