well, regardless of the outcome of this hearing, we do believe it is headed to the supreme court. and so we anticipate within the next year or two ending up in front of the supreme court. may i ask you, please, kris, to tell us a little bit about your family? a gay couple married for ten years with four years. well, i mean, we re really fortunate that we ve been able to have the family that we have and that we live in a very progressive community. but we also live in this state of california where the state is employing a discriminatory practice, it s creating a separate class for couples like us. and frankly, you know, not having our constitutional rights has become very difficult for our family, something that we re becoming less and less tolerant of and something that honestly is hurting everyone. for the state to sanction discrimination the way it is today is not tolerable and it s something that s hurting everyone. kris perry and sandy stehr