reporter: apparently and these people are working on it, so much so that they even declined to offer new amendments today because they didn t want to slow down the process. jon: unbelievable. gym angle. thanks. reporter: you bet. to be honest with you and you could probably hear it and i apologize to you, i get mad, and it s it s pretty disturbing. it is, it s a program, it s like family for you matt, and i think we all understand that. yeah, it makes you sick. jenna: that is the emotional reaction of matt millen former penn state football player and board member of the charity founded by jerry sand r-r. sand shinmoedake the former football coach charged with sexually abusing young boys. as we ve been reporting to you penn state coach joe paterno