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Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20240604 10:15:00

while we talk about this package, some developments overnight in ukraine. several explosions rocked the capital of kyiv yesterday, shattering weeks of relative calm in that city. at least ten people were injured in the attacks that came barely an hour after talks ended between president volodymyr zelenskyy and the u.n. secretary general who was touring the war-torn capital to assess the damage. local officials say five russian missiles hit two high-rise residential buildings in the central part of the city. zelenskyy said russians were trying to, quote, humiliate the united nations, and said moscow s actions demand a strong response. meanwhile, russian rockets also pounded a makeshift hospital inside that steel factory in mariupol, where thousands of civilians and fighters still are holed up. ukraine s ministry of foreign affairs said dozens of already wounded soldiers were killed, and many were further injured in the strike. a video posted on twitter showed people combing through the

Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20240604 11:12:00

the ukrainian military, but we are focused on ukraine s defense. this is fundamentally a defensive war that russia chose to start and it is perpetrating against ukraine, inside ukraine. all right. deputy national security adviser jon finer, thank you very much. now, another potential significant development with germany. the country is no longer opposed to an embargo on russian oil. according to the wall street journal, german representatives to the european union are dropping an objection to a full russian oil embargo, as long as berlin is given time to secure alternative supplies. this comes after russia recently shut off gas to two nato allies, poland and bulgaria. germany is heavily reliant on russian energy imports and had previously opposed a full ban. the shift paves the way for the eu to ban crude imports from the

Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20240604 10:05:00

zelenskyy yesterday grateful for that money, believing that it has, you know that he has a better chance now to push the russians even further back. yeah. we heard yesterday morning, before president biden made the announcement, the package was going to be, quote, massive. boy, was that right. $33 billion. as mika pointed out, a lot of it is military assistance, but it is also funding their treasury, keeping their government going. it is humanitarian assistance. it is food. it is medicine. it is all the things that ukraine has been asking for in one basket. you re right, president zelenskyy has been pleading for more and more and more, and we understand his urgency. he s getting it, just flat out he is getting it from the united states. as you say, america is betting now on ukraine to win this war. that s what all this investment is. we heard the rhetoric from defense secretary austin a couple days ago. much stronger than we ve heard maybe in the last decade or two toward russia, s

Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20240604 11:13:00

kremlin. katty kay, not just to keep underlining this, but it needs to be underlied. people need to keep this in context, americans especially. talk about what a radical departure this is for germany. yeah. i mean, the idea of germany getting involved militarily in another country is huge, and they ve started to do that. we saw them announcing sending those tanks. the idea of germany, on the other side, cutting off its imports of oil and gas from russia, which is cultivated to tie russia in the past to the european project is also huge. germany, from my understanding, germany is feeling a huge amount of pressure at the moment. ukraine is so symbolic for them. it s been the scene of enormous atrocities committed by german forces during the second world war. they realize the symbolism, everything the world is seeing. there s pressure from younger germans, for the german government to do more, both in terms of sanctioning russia but

Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20240604 10:10:00

since this war began. it is really a historical 180. we were talking when biden first came into power about the fact that the nato alliance had been severed by donald trump. he was going to have to do first thing s first and take care of our allies and become closer allies. i kept making the point, you know, $40 trillion to $2 trillion. if we couldunite with europe, we d be in good shape. the united kingdom two months ago, a playground for russian ol oligarchs, obviously still dealing post-brexit. france, le pen, the threat. people were concerned even a month ago that perhaps there could be a pro-putin leader running france. germany now with a massive budget, now sending heavy weapons. poland, they were facing

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