that we originally booked you on, member of the foreign relations committee, one-time chair as well. that is, obviously, what s going on with ukraine and russia. there seems to be a mini debate. there s a bit of a disagreement on whether some sanctions should be leveled right near versus the mother of all sanction bills. if you re waiting for action, why? i think there s a growing consensus among democrats and republicans. we ve had conversations about this, that we re prepared to institute some sanctions today, if they give the president president biden a stronger hand in dealing with mr. putin. we think what mr. putin has done warrants additional sanctions, but we only want to put them in
sanctions bills that senator menendez passed. it would be good that the president would have that in his tool box but i will stake whatever reputation i have that if there is an invasion and incursion that congress will very quickly pass not only the mother but the father of all sanction bills and the president needs the tools to implement those sarkss as need be. clearly within of them could be the energy issues. if that happens then the united states is already preparing to back fill the loss of energy, gas or oil, from the soviet almost the resur gent soviet union from the russians. we ll see how it works out but the president needs to have the sanctions available to him and i m absolutely certain that congress will immediately pass
good job. who s saying, wow, what a great outcome? i think russia is saying what a great outcome, i think turkey is saying what a great outcome, as saud aassad and isis. he said there there were some isis folks who were on the run they were captured. we ll see. i don t think there s any evidence of that. we ll also see what republicans do. it does seem like donald trump was able to quiet a lot of the evangelical leaders. pat robertson said he lost the mandate of heaven, for instance. we ll see what happens in congress. all sorts of sanction bills are floating around, both in the house and the senate, probably more likely out of the house. we ll see what happens in the house. graham has a bill, there are all sorts of bills. we ll see.
gideon rose, editor of foreign affairs. dan senor is co-founder of the think tank the foreign policy initiative. julia yoffey is staff writer at the atlantic. dan, i ll start with you. you were better plugged in to congressional republicans than almost anyone. look at all the things that have happened, and it does feel as though you are beginning to see a republican revolt. that is, senators and congressman, particularly senators, feeling they can defy trump and not pay a price. yeah. i mean you see it in legislation. the sanctions bill that was primarily knfocussed on russia s extraordinary. congress has passed sanction bills but they always give the press going back 40 years they give the president some flexibility because is he in charge of implementing foreign policy and you want to give the president flexibility to waive sanctions or pull back from the sanctions. congressional republicans said, we don t trust you, president trump, to actually make that decision to run yo
refused to criticize vladimir putin. at the same time, that man is still president. they re not going to the most extreme element they could in terms of pushback. we re going to need to see now that the president announced he ll sign the sanction bills, what happens with the russian properties, what happens on ancillary negotiations. in the meantime, vice president pence is out there sounding like a traditional republican while donald trump is trying to do his best to not really antagonize he didn t talk a heck of a lot about election meddling. fair point. he was taking a fair stance on russia. david drucker, there is a third end t entity in this relationship between president trump and president putin and that s congress. congress has made it abundantly clear that the president doesn t have a free hand in terms of russia policy. i don t think it s possible to overstate how significant congress s action is. i was talking to david miller, he reminded me not since 1986