she loved sam cook and she wanted to sing what sam was singing. and she went on she was still gospel really at the time and sam was singing more mainstream stuff. right, right. but she moved on and got on the same level with sam singing well, she started with some jazz. she would do things with king curtis and the soul serenade, you know. but she couldn t stay there. she had to stretch out. and when she stretched out, she stretched out. that s amazing. we re just showing some pictures of the apollo there. camilla, she s the queen of soul, undisputed queen of soul, also the queen of the apollo. yes. that s right. talk to me about her history, camilla, at the apollo. she s performed at the apollo dozens of times. she first graced the stages in early 60s, right? no one really knew her name, but