so tomorrow marks four years since that time we all remember that escalator ride that started it all. the president descending into the throng of reporters, supporters, staffers and paid actors to launch his campaign right there in trump tower. that moment beginning a new phase in american politics. joining me now, danielle moody mills, host of woke af on sirius xm, rick tyler and political analyst and former trump campaign adviser, sam numburg. thank you all. sam, i have to start with you, i know you must have been there on that day in january, the jaws have not fully stopped. when this all started, sam, did you or anyone else at trump tower believe we would actually be here today? we didn t really know. you have to remember the president at that point had two options. we were going to evaluate by the end of august to see how the
did everything he could in order to win, including break the law. rick, last question to you, with the president s comments on accepting dirt from foreign governments, he was very quick to write off the fbi director at the end of that. what do you make of that? it wasn t very well thought out. he said the fbi director is wrong. here s a problem with all of that is that foreign governments that give information or get involved in campaigns are doing so because they have an interest, particularly adversaries. now look at the iranian situation, you have an administration most people don t trust. they don t think donald trump tells the truth. if these situations in order to mobilize people against a cause as if we were going to war with iran, you have to be able to believe the administration and this administration is not believable. rick and danielle and sam, always good to see all three of you. thank you so much. i m not a monster, i m simply amanda. next, a tearful return from
campaign was going and he had to give a decision to nbc if he was going to do apprentice. that s how this started. fast forward a week later, eight days after his announcement he will no longer be doing the apprentice, and while it wasn t good for his business during the comments he made in his announcement, he became sort of a political martyr. it s something that i think helped propel him to number one. i always said to him, said to me, where do you think we re going to be after i announce? i said if we re not number two in the teens we have a problem. we were number one faster than i thought and we got into around the 20s less than 15 days after he announced and that was in a crowded field. as rick will remember when he was with ted cruz, it was something where there was just something unique about it. there was an energy. it was something different. it was something that was exciting to the process. and it was novel. sam, do you think he was a martyr or do you think he was an
laughing hysterically when he came down the escalator because it was symbolism we re going down. it wasn t something you would normally plan for. sam was right. trump never i don t remember a national poll where he wasn t number one after he announced. and he kept that lead up. he did lose iowa to us so he did lose in the statewide poll. but he stayed number one. and part of the campaign, and think i part of the way the media covered him was, he was going this was it. i remember at the end of his announcement campaign we re all thinking that was a really interesting and entertaining and that s over. event after event after event we said that s over and realized it s not over. we re here today. it happens again and again and again. it s clearly donald trump in my view the way i read it he did want to fire mueller and gave explicit instructions to fire mueller verbally, not written down, but he did that.