anywhere until we have an attempt to isolate north korea economically that s more effective than exists. that means the chinese and to some extent the russians, but more importantly, what we can do is we can start a serious effort for missile defense which we have lacked, with new technology and by proliferating the technology that does work. the thad missile system works. the patriot missile system works. the navy sam-3 aegis cruisers and destroyers work. we have to get industrious here and put together a defense, because civil defense is not the answer for the main targets, two, three, five years from now and the north koreans have a dozen or more icbms, civil defense is not much of a tool to use against thermonuclear weapons. well, i m sure there will be a lot of conversations on the