lewis and so many other ancestors of liberation that this is what democracy looks like. reverend, i would love to keep going but i m up against what in my business call a terminal break at the end of an hour. appreciate you coming on and sharing your perspective with us. we ll be watching today but, more importantly, we ll be watching to see if there s any action after today. thank you for sharing your perspective with us. go dogs! thank you all for being with us at this hour. we ll be back tomorrow with more meet the press daily. msnbc s coverage continues with katy tur after this break h h katy tur after that s also gentle on skin. for wrinkles results in one week. neutrogena®. for people with skin. your doctor gives you a prescription. “let s get you on som this” we could bring it right to your door. with 1 to 2 day delivery from your local cvs. or same day if you need it sooner.
to make carveouts in the rules so that things can get done here when they re gridlocked. they did it on the debt ceiling. senator warnock is one of those who is central to the voting rights conversation and who made the point during the end of last year when they made that carveout on the debt ceiling, hey, if you are going to do it on the debt ceiling why can t you do it on something as fundamental and important as voting rights? certainly that s a conversation here and part of the reason why we see grassroots groups so upset about the way the senate has handled this and other agenda item issues, it seems like they re willing to do carveouts on things that are economic related but not necessarily on something as critical as democracy and voting, which they have repeatedly said is an underpinning of the democratic agenda right now, but as you go into a voting year, i don t have the numbers of how congress spent its time but i would imagine it looks pretty similar to the way that presid
progressives who have been arguing that voting rights is essential to our democracy and you have to sort of show us some movement on voting rights, i think you should take that as an opportunity, okay, here i am, here we go, all hands on deck, we re going to move heaven and earth to try to get this thing passed. i want to ask you about a comment that jim clyburn made to mehdi hasan on his streaming show. let me play it here because i m curious about the message it s sending and what do you make of it? here it is. if we do not pass these bills, i don t see how we can have unfettered elections in november where every vote will be counted, the nullification efforts down in georgia and other prays places. this is not about suppressing the vote, this is about
nullifying the votes that have been cast. are you at all concerned i understand what he s saying are you at all concerned, cornell, though, that if people view the inability to get these bills means my vote doesn t count anymore? what does that do to turnout? voting rights for a long time has been a way of you have to make sure they don t take your right to show, that s why you have to show up. the doom and gloom messaging, there a double-eblngd sword to it. as a political hack, with my political campaign hat on, congressman clyburn is setting up the argument. is there a persuasive argument to make with moderate middle swaths of americans that our democracy is in danger and republicans are the ones who are putting our democracy in danger, as well as the base voters to say, look, this is a sense of urgency, our democracy is in danger. i don t know about you, but i don t think people who look like
know, there s i want to say there s a small door ajar with the bipartisan group that would do what the electoral vote act maybe expand beyond that. i m going to call it a slice of bread. is it worth taking that slice of bread, if that s all there is? no. it s not. because that s not all there is. the aca, does not address the scores and scores of attacks against our democracy from recertification to preelection day to early voting to polling location changes to the attacks against minority communities, black and brown voters. it doesn t talk about the ability for states to overthrow it and take away and decompose county election officials and those boards on a local level. it s insufficient. it s a non-starter to be able to say this is some kind of comprise. when we re talking about it s democracy.