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Transcripts for CNN Forensic Files 20140305 07:04:00

if a crazy man comes in there. can t put a dead man in jail, can you? can you? roy brown, spent six months in jail from making those threats. and was released just six days before sabina s murder. his alibi was that he was with his girlfriend the entire night, and he gave a name, gave a location where they were, and they checked on it and found out that his girlfriend actually was in jail that night. so he obviously was lying to them about his whereabouts. brown denied any involvement, but he was arrested for arson and murder. called me up the day before, come over arrest you. i said, go on. are you guys serious? and come over, arrest me, all right. 10:00 in the morning, sure, pick

Transcripts for CNN Forensic Files 20140305 07:28:00

did barry bench murder sabina kulakowski? barry bench and sabina were acquaintances, sabina lived with barry s brother, ron, until they broke up a month before the fire. according to friends, barry bench was in financial trouble and may have wanted to sell the farmhouse where sabina was staying. no one knows what happened that night. but the forensic evidence shows barry went to the farmhouse to speak with sabina. what are you doing here? there was an argument, and things turned violent. the theory is that barry set fire to the farmhouse and was about to leave when he realized that sabina wasn t dead. there was another fight outside. by this time he couldn t take her body back into the

Transcripts for CNN Forensic Files 20140305 07:02:00

the evidence showed that she was in the house when the fire started. at some point, sabina was alive in or about the structure when it was burning because she did have some soot in her lungs. between the farmhouse and sabina s body, police found a red t-shirt stained with sabina s blood. fire investigators found traces of accelerant inside the house and quickly ruled the fire arson. investigators thought the crime was one of passion. rage, pure rage. perhaps motivated by someone to get revenge. sabina lived in the farmhouse alone. her boyfriend, ron bench, lived there with her, until they broke up a few months before the fire. by all accounts, it was an amicable breakup, and they remained friends.

Transcripts for CNN Forensic Files 20140305 07:10:00

prosecution, and convicted roy brown of sabina s murder. he was sentenced to 25 years to life in prison. there was no real evidence that roy brown knew sabina kulakowski, much less where she lived. when brown got to his prison cell, he refused to sleep on the bed because he said it belonged to a killer, not him. i told them that, when i went in there the first night, i ll sleep on the floor, that bed doesn t belong to me. that s my desk. i turned it into an office desk. the mattress, i took a belt, piece of string, made a chair of it, sat it down, that s my law school. brown filed several appeals and all were denied, yet, he continued to work to clear his name. you can t get into the law library unless you bribe somebody or pay somebody. first thing they re going to do is beat the hell out of you for being there, just to make sure that you know who s in charge.

Transcripts for CNN Forensic Files 20140305 07:09:00

roy brown s wife and girlfriend, boat of them stated under oath that he was a biter. they said when he was angry, he would bite them and used biting as a form of trying to control them. coincidentally, sabina kulakowski was bitten before she was killed. prosecutors asked to compare the bite marks to brown s teeth. roy brown s bite pattern matched some of the bites on sabina s body. but hired by the defense claimed the opposite. he said the bite wounds on sabina s body were created by someone with six front upper teeth and brown didn t have them. and he was very clear adamant in excluding roy who left the bite marks. the jury sided with the

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