the day decisions, so to speak. this situation is still so fluid. as you both know, in order to report in afghanistan now, you have to deal with the taliban. to understand how that works, i got in touch with a man called saad mohseni. he s the ceo of mobi group, which owns tolonews. to understand asking a client, you have to look at tolonews. it began in 2003. it s grown into a formidable operation. it has millions of viewers and listeners across afghanistan i want to understand how saad mohseni manages that relationship. it has always been professional. - we had an incident-
as to how others would survive, civil society and so forth. - but when you run those stories which could be seen as being negative to the taliban, are they on the phone saying to drop this? not yet. i think they still don tl have the bandwidth to deal with everything, every single day. - i think right now, - they are scrambling to deal with the airport, security, with food, with this - new cabinet appointments. but with time, they ll- become a lot more savvy, they ll have monitoring teams and they will be calling the media. this is when the real challenge for us, how much capacity - will they have for criticism? saad mohseni, the ceo of the company that owns tolonews. he has a striking turn of phrase. he describes afghanistan as a different neighbourhood. sana, clarissa, you will both
monitoring teams and they will be calling the media. this is when the real challenge for us, how much capacity - will they have for criticism? saad mohseni, the ceo of the company that owns tolonews. he has a striking turn of phrase. he describes afghanistan as a different neighbourhood. sana, clarissa, you will both have what have working relationships with the taliban. clarissa, help me understand how you engage with them. we ve been engaging with them for a couple of years now. i did a story in the north of the country in january of 2019, which entailed spending time in their territory, getting permission from them, and one thing i will give the taliban credit for, which i think saad touches on there, is there was a process.
some colleagues that didn t want to use their own names. we gave them that option if they didn t want their names used. they could use a different name or they could not use a name. in some extreme cases, we had to re voice a report in order to protect their identity. so, we had to make constant on the day decisions, so to speak. this situation is still so fluid. as you both know, in order to report in afghanistan now, you have to deal with the taliban. to understand how that works, i got in touch with a man called saad mohseni. he s the ceo of mobi group, which owns tolonews. to understand asking a client, you have to look at tolonews. it began in 2003.
it s grown into a formidable operation. it has millions of viewers and listeners across afghanistan i want to understand how saad mohseni manages that relationship. it has always been professional. - we had an incident- where they attacked one of our buses in 2016, i resulting in the killing of seven of our employees. the haqqani network took responsibility. i the relationship has i been fairly professional other than that. they re always l available online. in areas they control, they i provide us with safe passage. we were embedded| with the taliban unit when they took on isis.