i m really serious about this business a woman says something and sometimes nobody else at the table hears it. three clicks later, a guy says it. after that, it s always that guy s idea. let me offer something specific on that. i ve actually done this when you can at least get two women at the table. if a woman says something, another woman gets her damt hn d up and says, as soon as you can get back in the process, as s sheila said, as mary said, so at least there s a second voice, at least there s a second echo, at least there s another flag planted on this. you say that happens all the time. i i m telling you, that has happened in our office. i am shocked. yes. i remember.