campaigning for president even if he were convicted. now, that is not entirely shocking to be honest. trump never admitted defeat after losing the election in the 2020 election. he s not going to tap out of the 2024 race when it s just getting started. but there s more to this move. it s not about politics. it has a bigger strategy at its core. as axios explains, the 2024 campaign is more than a race to return to the white house. this is a fight to stay out of prison. legal experts believe it s unlikely trump s criminal trial will be resolved before the 2024 election, so whoever wins the presidency could be in a position to influence trump s case, and if trump is the gop nominee, he could essentially be campaigning for his freedom, an unprecedented scenario in this country. according to axios, winning the presidency would give a chance for sympathy or even pardon himself if convicted. his political rivals trying to beat trump, they have signaled they would pardon him or bring
honors the right of the accused. to take us through how he might do that, i m joined by laurence tribe, professor emirates. let s talk about reactions from folks like bill barr, a key trump ally in, you know, his time as, you know in his time as attorney general. you know, since this indictment was unsealed, people once pivotal are speaking out about the case. what has the case laid out so far? the case is devastating. it s very rare i find myself agreeing with bill barr. in this case it s not a matter of opinion. a matter of i oh sense, but i would encourage your viewers to
brazen weapon of power accountable and mccarthy sent this tweet up before the indictment was unsealed. why this rush to judgment when he didn t even have the facts, you think? well, you d have to ask kevin, of course, but i think, you know, some operative wrote up the talking points, distributed it to all the republican members, and that s what they said. they didn t care about the facts or the law. so it s very disappointing. you know, it doesn t bode well for the country that some of the leaders would basically try and undercut our system of justice just to support one man. it s not the way we should act. trump has said he won t back out of the race even if he is convicted. i have a two-parter for you. are you concerned that trump might try to pardon himself if he wins in 2024 or requires a running mate to promise to
alienating it, maybe they re scared of the base hurting them, and then the base decides if republicans are sticking with them, they re going to stick with him too. and i think that they re sort of in a spin cycle of misery for themselves, which, again, they totally deserve. but it is interesting, and i don t know when this when or how this fever breaks. all right. maya wiley and molly jong-fast, thank you. still to come, how we got to this moment of a second trump indictment. stay with us. a second trump indictment stay with us
campaigning for president even if he were convicted. now, that is not entirely shocking to be honest. trump never admitted defeat after losing the election in the 2020 election. he s not going to tap out of the 2024 race when it s just getting started. but there s more to this move. it s not about politics. it has a bigger strategy at its core. as axios explains, the 2024 campaign is more than a race to return to the white house. this is a fight to stay out of prison. legal experts believe it s unlikely trump s criminal trial will be resolved before the 2024 election, so whoever wins the presidency could be in a position to influence trump s case, and if trump is the gop nominee, he could essentially be campaigning for his freedom, an unprecedented scenario in this country. according to axios, winning the