companies into risking some of their capital in order to develop this knew antibiotics and then we need to give them the leeway in order to make a profit after they make the antibiotics. shepard: the health official in great britain says in 20 years it s going to be dangerous to go to the hospital. do you think? i don t think it s going to be dangerous to go to the hospital. infections happen anywhere. there the reason the hospitals get a lot of rye sis stand organisms is because where i is where we see the sickest of the sick, the cancer patients and a transplant patient and people or steroids who don t have much immunity and they re dependent on the antibiotics to help them get through any infection. thanks so much. very good to be here. shepard: yesterday we reported that merchants in 40 states will be allowed to charge swipe fees. in other words, charge you more