understand but since then in a bunch of type of aircraft. do you know how often he flies, typically? he flies very frequently. he s got quite a number of airplanes. many of them several of them are from the world war ii era like the ryan pt 22 and he flies them all on a regular schedule maintains a lot of profishlt si in them. it s amazing to me he s not only rated in fixed wing aircraft but helicopters. how common is that for someone to have multiple certifications like that? probably 5% of the pilot population that has fixed wing and motor craft ratings. the amount of time that you need to get that kind of certification. how long a process is it? well getting a helicopter