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hi there, everyone. i m nicole wallace, thanks for being here with us. we ve got a lot of places you get your news today, we re glad you re joining us. four pm in the east, it s 11 pm in moscow. we re following breaking news this hour, with the latest on the revolt unfolding in russia. and we see news is confirming, yevgeny prigozhin is the head of the wagner group, which is a private mercenary army in russia, that s done a lot of the fighting in the war in ukraine. he has called for his moscow bound convoy to stand down for now. that s only after advancing to within 120 miles of the city of moscow. in the biggest threat to russian president vladimir putin s grip on power that we ve ever seen. prigozhin sent a voice note, signaling that the forces would stand down, saying the group understands, quote, the responsibility for spilling russian blood on one of the sides. we are turning back our convoys, and going back to field camps, according to the plan. this comes just hours a

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Transcripts for MSNBC Symone 20240604 20:43:00

i just think there is so much uncertainty as to what happened today. what was in that deal? and what things look like going forward. that s so interesting. general twitty, a military expert positive to me just what julie is explaining. he s on the battlefield leading his men. he saw, he saw them stacked the bodies. he saw the horrors of the incompetence of the way the war has been conducted by vladimir putin, and his military officials. does the west, does ukraine and nato make a different calculation about the ability of russia to combat ukraine s latest counter offensive? it hasn t gone well at any point. but how much weaker is the russian military without the wagner group? while they are weaker, and

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Transcripts for MSNBC Symone 20240604 20:58:00

cases. does this internal fighting mark to zelenskyy s advantage? or does putin feel he s got to show his power and do something with his air power. carpet bombing. i mean, he s got power. he s got missiles and fighter jets. bombers. he can do some terrible things to ukraine, to try to show his muscle right now. our friend barry mccaffrey tweeted something along the lines of what you re talking about, that within 90 days, putin can t let this down. he predicted that something as mild, perhaps, of an interrogation and investigation, and perhaps the murder of prigozhin would take place. i m guessing that even belarus probably isn t safe for someone who s humiliated vladimir putin on the international stage. , well putin is his kgb back round and the fsb as the successor.

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Transcripts for MSNBC Symone 20240604 20:47:00

tanks on the side of the road and contrast that with what julia is describing. which is the orderly unchallenged convoy to moscow, there is no comparing that. and no denying that the world has now seen the fecklessness of the russian military, and the efficiency of the wagner group. i would agree with you there. i think the russian military is in total disarray. and russia is a disaster right now. on the world stage, by the way. they look back here, a year and a half ago. russia had his status across the world. they have shown themselves to be a disaster across all fronts now. so president putin s reputation has definitely been tarnished. the russian military, where we all thought they were ten feet tall, they ve definitely been tarnished. so, they have nothing to show for their actions in ukraine, but the fact that they are

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Transcripts for MSNBC Symone 20240604 20:25:00

those elements of the field don t make sense of it. part of that view would be that putin did offer him belarus, some sort of amnesty. and give prigozhin temporary shelter inside belarus. even that is a bit farfetched that he would allowed this situation to stand. to working in power and regimes to that ability. it s frankly impossible that putin s going to let him get away. he s notoriously vindictive. going after intelligence officers that have gone against russia before, poisoning him. the infants bunch of different things. prigozhin, he s not likely to walk away from this. colonel vindman, what is the psychological, and operational opportunity that ukraine has right now. so from a practical level,

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