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candidates in the process. russia is really scaling it up in terms of what they are doing for election interference around the world. and we have an election this year too. maybe it is not surprising but still bracing to open up a chicago paper today and read this. russian propaganda push expected in chicago for democratic national convention, experts say. one expert telling the chicago sun times, quote, this is just a target-rich stew for the russians to try lots of things and see what works. joining us now is reporter tom shuba, assistant criminal justice editor at the chicago sun times. it s a pleasure to have you here. thanks very much for being here. hey, rachel. thanks for having me. so the experts that you talked to, are they expecting this in the abstract, or are they seeing things happening in the news environment, in the political environment, that make them anticipate this kind of interference with the democrats? i think they re anticipating
to dozens of hard-right politicians in a bunch of different european countries, paying them to plant kremlin propaganda in western media outlets, boosting pro-russia candidates in the process. russia is really scaling it up in terms of what they are doing for election interference around the world. and we have an election this year too. maybe it is not surprising but still bracing to open up a chicago paper today and read this. russian propaganda push expected in chicago for democratic national convention, experts say. one expert telling the chicago sun-times, quote, this is just a target-rich stew for the russians to try lots of things and see what works. joining us now is reporter tom schuba, assistant criminal justice editor at the chicago sun-times. it s a pleasure to have you here. thanks very much for being here. hey, rachel. thanks for having me. so the experts that you talked to, are they expecting this in the abstract, or are they seeing things happening in the news