trump has been so brazen and the overall fact up not indicting would be such disrespect for the rule of law. that would be my best. gas rather, pollution flash remember on the russian probe trump which didn t go anywhere legally i m reminded of that since deleted tweet that goes, what i like to see o donnell trump wiggle his way out of this. tom trump wiggles his way out of the time. easily and while nevertheless. what do you make of the kind of optimism of some that trump s gonna get indicted, that he is going to be held to account. i think the mar-a-lago case is very unique and different from the kinds of shenanigans that trump has engaged in before. because it s quite straightforward and it s fairly simple. this is a stolen property case. he took records, classified records that were not his. he kept them in a place where he was not authorized to have
and resort homes and florida, are just above the law. former fbi specialists and now attorney and senior electra at yale university, parliament is the former u.s. attorney and former deputy assistant general at the doj. they joined me alive. thank you both for coming on the show, harry let me start with you, president though macron is going to indict trump. do you agree? well, that is the 64,000 dollar question, i do agree, i and he is right is four to really distinguish between garland s view of himself as a judge and as a prosecutor. what she says though at that at the end of the day the politics will be so royals on either side, he would just consider the evidence only. i actually think he won t let himself off so easily. he ll consider everything, including the politics that i think, i mean that factor has now began to weigh strongly in favor of indictments, because
11th circuit whose decision trump is appealing, it s none other than clarence thomas. now, in addition to being arguably the most conservative justice on the court, thomas is also the husband of far-right activists, ginni thomas, who in addition to pushing bonkers qanon conspiracy theories, to trump white house officials, also personally worked to try to help facilitate trump s attempted coup. including participating directly in that possibly fake electives game. jamie thomas also sets things like this, which make it clear that she and her husband are in a time for trump. i am happy to be here, but my husband told me that the president asked about me twice. so i m wearing my trump button, we need to [laughs] [applause] it is time to be behind whoever is our president. because it s a war for our country and the things that we believe in is going on. now despite the obvious conflict of interest, clarence thomas is so far refused to