protracted war against ukraine. do you have any idea what russia s red lines are? i think it s harder and harder to tell what putin s red lines are and what his calculus looks like. the challenge we have is we have to assess all of our assumptions about what russia will and won t do in light of what putin has been willing to do here in ukraine. i think the challenges, we want to avoid any escalation that gets close to any sort of nuclear confrontation. there has been talks certainly in russian circles, russian doctrine around the tactical nuclear weapons. this isn t all out nuclear war. obviously who wouldn t want to see that? we wouldn t want to get anywhere near there, but the reality is putin has defined the rungs of escalation. i think we ve allowed ourselves to fall into the trap of assuming anything that s provocative is immediately escalatory to the nuclear stage. i think what the russians are
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