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be the forward platform that would allow russia to compete with the us on the diplomatic front in that region. jillian: robbie talked about the sanctions put in place already and we talked about another round of sanctions was the white house walked that back. how do you think donald trump is handling russia so far? it is a difficult, one of the most difficult scenarios for him because in the background is the mueller investigation and all the false charges around russian collusion which have not been proven between the trump campaign and various russian operatives. all the noise on the one side but he is able to navigate and work around that by focusing on making russia pay for its malfeasance. you mentioned the 3 rounds of sanctions that have happened in the past month or so so focusing
to, then there has to be more severe sanctions. but senator, you do have senator john mccain, your colleague on the senate foreign relations committee, is out ahead of you saying putin will pay. you re talking about a more methodical process. but if as you said, if it does lead right back to vladimir putin, to russia, then what in theory, walk us through making russia pay. what would that entail? it would be broad sanctions. we have had some sanctions leveraged against individuals in russia. just the other day the administration offered some sanctions against certain companies in russia. but there are much more severe sanctions, and as the author of sanctions on iran, there are much more severe sanctions we can level. and the european union must seriously consider joining us in this effort to make them multilateral. those could be financial service sanctions, which are really
perhaps kicking moscow out of the group of eight, but the reality is, we ve heard these types of threats or this type of positioning against russia in the past. the new york times headline reads, making russia pay. it s not so simple, and, thus, getting a reaction or a compromise from vladimir putin is not as simple as some would have it to be. not at all. vladimir putin was well aware of the tools, the limited tools we had at our disposal to punish him when he carried out this operation. president obama came out to the briefing room on friday afternoon and warned putin not to do this. the operation was under way, but putin did not stop. it s continued through the weekend and i think putin understands we can try to impose reputational costs and some economic costs on him, but he cares a lot about the ukraine, about the ethnic russians there, about the economic integration between russia and ukraine, and i think he s calculating whatever punishment we can impose, it won t be that ba
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