with ukraine. quote from washington post. president trump s personal attorney negotiated this deal for $200,000 during the same month he was working with the prosecutor to dig up dirt on joe biden. this was the corrupt prosecutor that wads going to be a new client. is this what rudy has been doing with his time since 9/11? even before he left the mayorship of new york. rudy giuliani had been setting himself up to be a consultant to all sorts of people who are not nice people, to be polite about it, around the world. it s been very lucrative for him. it s been fairly widely reported his firm has taken in over $100 million in fees. you look around and one of the things that s striking is who he represents and that list you gave which is far from complete but hits on the kinds of people he was representing. these are not people who are the
in all the system we have seen is everybody, sondland, the former ambassador to ukraine, all of them, all say one thing is that rudy was in charge. we were told talk to rudy. we were told rudy is the guy. if rudy giuliani is in some trouble, not only because of what he potentially did for donald trump but what he might have been doing for himself. that he was hunting around for business for himself, do this other stuff and he might have separate issues regarding not registering as a foreign agent while he s hunting around. let s put up a couple of things he was looking for. he s worked for brazil, russia leaning ukrainian mayor, he s worked for heavy weight boxing champion turned ukrainian mayor. he s working all over the world drumming up money and he might have been trying to drum up money in ukraine. if he wasn t registering as a foreign agent, he might have
theory that began with russia. joining me is former senior director of the white house situation room and former chief of staff at the cia. thank you so much for coming back. let me play you fiona hill. he came to her testimony after two straight hearings after the guy you saw from the pulpit of congress repeated this conspiracy theory that was really ukraine that meddled in the election and not russia. she came ready for him in the third hearing and here she is. some of you on this committee appear to believe that russia and its security services did not conduct a campaign against our country and perhaps, somehow, for some reason, ukraine did. this is a fictional narrative that s been perpetrate bid the russian security services themselves. it appears that paul manafort believes this because it helps him. he got paid by ukraine. it appears rudy giuliani believers it because he s getting paid and donald trump thinks russia did not meddle in
in ukraine on your behalf? well you have to ask that to rudy, but rudy, i don t know i don t know he was going to ukraine and i think he cancelled a trip. rudy has other clients other than me. you didn t joining me now is joyce vance and former u.s. attorney, mayy wiley and barbara mcquaid, nbc contributor and former u.s. attorney. thank you all for being here. joyce, i ll start with you first. let s go back to the second thing i talked about. this was the fact that donald trump has claimed that when he was talking in july to the president of ukraine that he never asked him for anything. they backed that up with claiming that on september 7th and september 9th he literally says the words no quid pro quo. he knew there was a whistle-blower complaint that busted him for trying to get
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