us from war with russia. that is one of the themes of my new book, war with russia, that you mention. remember what happened.ed trump was supposed to meet with putin in argentina. it was that important? it was very important. we are embroiled in crises that are fraught with hot water, not just cold war from syria to ukraine. in this episode in the russian ukrainian waters occurs. it seems clear it was a provocation to disrupt the meeting between trump and putin, and it was successful. trump felt, because of these russia allegations, clearly, that you just discussed with professor dershowitz, that trump feels not free to deal with putin in terms of national security. think back to john kennedy during the cuban missile crisis in 1962. that wasn the model of what we
should never do again. but the lesson also was that president kennedy was free to negotiate with the kremlin leader, to avoid nuclear war. that is not the case today and that s why i think the danger of war with russia, at least since the cuban missile crisis, is greater in my lifetime in history than it s ever been because of these russia allegations for which i have yet to see any authentic evidence. we saw that last week. trump either felt he coulden no, or he lacked the resolve to go ahead and meet with putin even though this meeting is desperately needed. there s a new crisis every month with russia. tucker: let me ask the most basic question, who - clearly there are forces pushing for war with russia in effect in oure country. who are they and why are they doing that? i m not prepared to say that they actually want actual war with russia because in my mind that means the possibility of
nuclear war. a few decades ago you and i would be having an oh, my god,, conversation. how can we even think about the possibility of nuclear war? somehow that s gone, lost in the russia allegations that trump has donetr it all under the influence of the kremlin. there s no evidence for it, so in my mind, whatever promotes this russia gate allegations, and it s primarily democrats, not only, but primarily the democratic party, endangering our national security. that s not a popular thing for a person such as myself, who used to live on the liberal reservation to say and people denounced me for saying it. but it s the real truth based on my 50 years of studying american-russian relationships. we are in a very dangerous situation and this has to stop and has to stop very soon. tucker: professor steve cohen. coming from you, anyone who s followed russia for the last severall decades knows the weigt that those words carry.