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Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20240604 10:19:00

a large degree remember, it wasn t that long ago where ron desantis had to answer the question of how he came down on the war in ukraine. and i thought that was very a very illustrating answer which is that he basically said it wasn t in our interests. that s not a position that i think a mainstream republican presidential candidate would have taken in a pre-trump era. certainly would have been shocking in a pre-trump era. trump last night was appearing on tucker carlson s program, the host is of the same philosophical bend, he doesn t think the u.s. should be in conflict with russia, it should be aligned with russia i would just argue trump s imprint on the party and the movement is vast, and so that s the real sort of legacy here it s not his own personal fascination with these people. it s how he shaped the conservative media ecosystem and the republican party writ large around these issues. well, donald trump programs distracting a bit from his other

Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20240604 10:29:00

others in the meantime, jim jordan and republicans planning the field trip to new york city next week to talk about alvin bragg and crime here in new york senior legal affairs josh gerstein, thank you so much for your reporting. louisville police released body cam video from the first officers to arrive on the scene of monday s deadly mass shooting we ll have the latest on the investigation and the calls from local leaders for federal and state lawmakers to take action on gun violence, plus the mayor of louisville will be our guest. also ahead, we ll speak with democratic senator amy klobuchar about what members of congress are doing to push back against restrictions on access to abortion medication. and the special presidential envoy for hostage affairs joins us with an update on efforts to free the wall street journal reporter, wrongfully detained in russia you re watching morning joe. we ll be right back.

Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20240604 11:08:00

tyrant, who inherited, you know, inherited one of the most tyrannical states in the world and what s he known for? threatening the world with nuclear annihilation that s who donald trump respects and vladimir putin, once again, calls a guy who will be remembered years from now as the man who wrecked modern russia, praises vladimir putin and says he s brilliant a man who destroyed russia s military, a man who has wrecked russia s economy, and a man who had europe dependent on his energy and ruined that, too. i mean, eddie, i just don t know where to start so i toss it to you. well, you know, joe, we ve always used the language or phrase it s either confession or projection with donald trump, and in this moment, what we see is he s confessing he s confessing what his aspiration is. he wants to be a strong man.

Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20240604 11:18:00

say, i wish we could have a military like russia s really really no, i don t think you do you can ask the wagner group what happened when they rushed 2,500 americans in syria it didn t end well for any of the 500 of them who were killed in a couple of minutes and yeah, we can send 2,500 people to syria and they can stop the iranis, they can wipe out isis, they can stop the russians, they can stop the turks, they can stop the syrians from encroaching it s a military more powerful than ever before but all donald trump can do is trash em. and then republicans, they ll trash the irs and say their agents are going out to iowa with ar-15s to shoot middle class americans. again, the hating of america has become tantamount in this

Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20240604 11:36:00

terrorists the second is, leave no american behind so how do other countries sort through this and how does america sort through this? messily is the answer other countries also have the don t negotiate with terrorist attitudes, but what does that mean when you feel that a country has taken unlawfully one of your own citizens with the knowledge that if you do negotiate or give a prisoner in return, you re going to perpetuate the idea that your people will be taken there tends to be one rule, which is that you, you know, you try to negotiate diplomatically, but you don t make trades that then make your future citizens vulnerable but every country deals with this in a messy way. i think the exception for the united states is that the u.s. is frankly more of a target. and so countries like russia are going to get more publicity, more bang for their buck,more high-profile prisoners in return if they negotiate with the

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