biden expected to face after the summit. no one thought russia would stop harboring criminals launching the attacks. thank you so much, phil. i want to bring in our panel now to further discuss this. david sanger, you wrote today in the new york times that early indications show russia s intelligence agency may be responsible for the hacks on the rnc vendor. what is the significance of that? there are two types of attacks as you heard from alex before and from phil. and so, there s this state sponsored attacks like those run bis the svr which is one of the spinoffs of the old soviet kgb. and it is primarily an intelligence gathering operation and to some degree that s less upsetting to the administration because states spy on each other. we spy on them. they spy on us.