now, was he nay eve? did other people pack up documents? did he get bad advice? i don t know. i don t think we know enough about those facts. i don t believe for a second donald trump intentionally knowingly willfully would have done anything wrong with any of these documents. that s my personal view. maggie haberman is a friend of mine and i m sure she did an excellent job reporting but that s my view. again, doesn t think he did anything wrong is different than knowing he had the documents and had been told he wasn t supposed to have had them, correct? i hear yeah. so with respect to the documents at issue in that piece you just you just, you know, showed the excerpt from, it would seem as to those documents, they were talking about documents, he knew he had certain documents but i m always wary when he see excerpts. i don t know the full conversation. i understand. if he had been told you said maggie haberman is a friend and great reporter. right. she s just telling