this, is a sign that trump obviously knew he did not have a right to hold on to those documents. why otherwise would you go to such efforts to have the team delete the footage. i think that is going to be something that raises a question of what is the defense that todd blanch and the attorneys trump is adding to the team brings when this comes to near, updated allegations and indictments and charges. you just described the textbook example of consciousness of guilt. the notion of how am i to infer that this person knew that their behavior was criminal. that they willfully engaged in conduct as alleged, if the scheme overall that you use to actually prove and to demonstrate that consciousness of guilt. also look through whenever you re looking these these documents, they re public and the audience will do so to figure out the points, to give talking points about this being a political witch hunt that persists in spite of the lengthy documents we see here is about the people who hav
them not on the trump legal team anymore, saying essentially that might have just been a paper menu or something. this is making clear they don t believe that that s what it was. an important point, as well. an open question about where did they find it. did it travel from bedminster down to mar-a-lago? did they obtain it when they did the search and executed the search warrant down at mar-a-lago? a lot of questions for us to follow up on. these are highly classified documents. elie honig, what do you make of the news paula reported, trump is being charged with possessing classified documents shown in recorded in recorded bedminster meeting? wolf, this is a major breakthrough in this case. and just to refresh our viewers memories, there is an incident charged in the initial indictment and charged against in this new indictment where donald trump is showing people with no security clearance after he s left the white house, people are writing a book about mark moesd, ruffling
surveillance tapes? and that is exactly why footage was probably moved. so i think as we look at this in a broad scheme, this answers or tries to answer or may answer a lot of really important and damning questions about the former president s involvement in all of this and the moving of these mar-a-lago and hiding, trying to hide, these mar-a-lago documents. very significant. norm eisen with us, as well. i m reading this document, the super ceding indictment that came out with a lot of new information. one line that jumped out at me, i want to get your thought trump was not authorized to possess or retain those classified documents. he keeps insisting he was authorized as president of the united states, even though he removed those documents after he left office. he was authorized to retain those kinds of documents. what do you say? wolf, i worked on these issues when i was in government,
the documents that hopefully we ll be getting from the justice department soon will tell us a little about the story of what happened with carlos de la vera, was he acting at the direction of the former president. that is key to this. the fact that he s added to the existing case tells us a lot, that there is some kind of tie-in with the existing charges. my entire prosecutorial body leans in when i hear that he took photographs of the location of surveillance cameras. that s such an important point because we know from our reporting, and we know from the indictment that documents, boxes were not returned to a location before the attorney had to go and certify that everything was there. there were some concerted efforts alleged that there was a reason or motivation only to return a select few. so one, how do we know what was returned, how many boxes are still looming? and where would you have security cameras such that they could not be viewed if they were in a new location? all that
you know, as fbi agents were there to collect the documents that they had already made arrangements to collect from a trump attorney, there were a number of communications on june 23rd, for instance, at 8:46 trump called de la vera and they spoke for 20 minutes. the justice department trying to paint a picture of an effort by the former president working with his employees, de la vera as well as nauta, to try to conceal the footage of what was what was of these documents and concealing some of the footage here. and this is the key part of this. i m reading this exact same part that evan is. this is where carlos told an employee that the boss wanted the server deleted, referring to the server that had the footage. he had asked an employee how many days the server retained footage. the employ who we believe is the i.t. employee said he believed about 45 days you on long it