He recently traveled to pyongyang for the new yorker magazine. His report offers a rare, inside look at north korea. He writes in 18 years of , reporting, i never felt as much uncertainty at the end of a project, a feeling that nobody , not a diplomat, the strategists, or the scholars who have devoted their lives to the subject matter able to describe with confidence how the other side thinks. I am pleased to have him on this program. Welcome. Evan thank you very much. Charlie tell me how this trip took place. Who was on the trip, its purpose and plan . Evan this trip began a few months ago, really with the idea that we have to get there, we have to go to north korea to understand what is going on on the ground. They dont have diplomatic relations, so you cant go to an embassy in washington. What you can use is what is known as the new york channel, it is an Informal Office that exists within the north Korean Mission to the United Nations who manage relations with the United States. An