trying to find political dirt on joe biden in ukraine. that s not the case for the attorney general. what is so many questions for him including when they got referrals based on this complaint, why did they decide there was not anything worth pursuing criminally? david, look, as we know, trump repeatedly told ukraine s president in the phone call, barr would be calling and barr would be in touch and that s in the transcript and it is not even in the complaint allegation and it s in the transcript that we have. the justice department put out a statement saying barr never had discussions with any of those people with giuliani or the president about any of the stuff, about ukraine. trump says to the ukrainian president and bill barr will follow up with you and according to the doj, bill barr doesn t have a conversation and nothing ever happens. do you buy it? no, not particularly. he deserves his day in court and maybe he didn t have any contacts as he says and that s
between kiev and the president. state department officials including volcker and sondeland had spoken to mr. giuliani to contain the damage to u.s. national security and tonight mr. volcker is gone, resigning. and that s right. in addition to that, the complaint says that mr. volcker went in order to try to help the ukrainian president, alleges that a u.s. diplomat went to help a ukrainian president navigate the demands of a u.s. president. i mean, that is, if true, so stunning and that is the that would be the first question i would ask him for sure. you know, he is somebody who has a long career in diplomacy. he is a john mccain guy. he is the head of the mccain institute, and so he is somebody who is known to have a lot of integrity and would be
how people act until their backs are against the walls and i guess only time will tell if it develops. you heard chairman engle, three subpoenaing the secretary of state is part of the impeachment inquiry. they want the documents about president trump and rudy giuliani and the government and rudy giuliani and how he was operating as a private citizen and the personal attorney of the president and the vis-a-vis, the ukraine and foreign policy. so what do you think that will yield, carrie? is he going to comply? they said they haven t yet heard from him. n he is certainly, the administration has adopted a request for information. so it certainly seems they have adopted an overall approach to challenging, so i tend to expect that they will find ways to w l challenge these subpoenas or delay responding to them.
that the president doesn t really distinguish between his personal lawyer, somebody like rudy giuliani and bill barr who is the attorney general of the united states. so that s a problem that s a problem for the public because that s the president s point of view. what s a little bit less clear is whether bill barr knew and has been engaged in conversations regarding digging up kirt on the bidens from a foreign government. if he s involved certainly that s problem attic and we don t yet have those facts. i want to tell you to respond to the breaking news of the envoy, mr. volcker resigning. i want people to understand why he s central. starting in mid-may they were deeply concerned about mr. giuliani s circumhave noting proes e to relay back and forth
they could provide information and could fight for other information and it s for documents. depending on what types of privileges they want to assert. it depends on what the specific documents are. so it just depends on whether the administration is going to continue with their blanket approach of challenging all requests for congressional information. the difference in this case is that now there is an open, acknowledged impeachment inquiry on the part of the house and so there is the support of the speaker for these demands for information by all of the different committees. and so, dana, the context here is who are they going to be able to hear from? who are the american people going to be able to hear from and what kind of performance will it be and when i use that word i m using it specifically talking to somebody that i know you ve been able to speak to today, rudy giuliani. he wants giuliani to come in there and he wants him to testify and giuliani today is all over the map,