very interesting. i m joined by david lammy mp and sally 0sman, former director of royal communications for the king. david lammy, i know in your role as culture minister you come into contact with the prince of wales before, but i want to move forward to 2011, in tottenham, there had been terrible summer riots, and the prince of wales, as we said, like a lot of the great and the good, came to see what was happening and show theirface. take to see what was happening and show their face. take the story up from there. it gets very interesting. look, it is set to remind everyone the writing had gone on for four days. it was desperate. there were parents holding their children s correct my children, burnt out of their homes, people had started losing their lives. it was desperate. at the time all of our leaders were on holiday. david cameron was on holiday in italy. it