herschel walker at this point. but he has helped us distill a trend growing clear for decades among the gop. for republicans winning is the only thing. that s about blunts, unambiguous message conservatives have conveyed to the american people this week as they closed ranks i m around a man whose alleged life choices so thoroughly and fundamentally contradict the values they purport to stand for, it actually boggles the mind. the most recent development, the new york times reporting that the same woman who alleged herschel walker paid for her abortion in 2009 also alleged that walker urged her to terminate a second pregnancy two years ago, or two years later, excuse me. herschel walker has denied those allegations, saying he has never paid for or pressured a woman to have an abortion. this october surprise, which at one point would have ended other candidates chances, just didn t seem to matter to the right wing. we are full speed ahead in georgia, said the president of mitch
encrypted message from stewart rhodes, the founder of the oath keepers, which is an armed extremist group. he sent this to his lieutenants two days after the 2020 presidential election saying, in part, quote, we are getting through this without a civil war. rhodes is the government s key target in the massive and historic capital right prosecution that has resulted in more than 870 arrests. roads and for their alleged oath keepers are the first january six defendants to stand trial for seditious conspiracy. a rare civil war era charge that can call for up to 20 years behind bars. let s bring in our sunday night panel back into the conversation. matthew, you reaction to this growing embrace of civil war rhetoric among the right? it seems they are only seeing the solution in this country through either complete control f power or civil war. well, i think we ve also seen it reflected in how they ve military these militias
ahead than our leaders on this issue. josh, your final thought on this? it affects communities, marginalized communities. how do you think this will be received? and more importantly, should the president have gone further? i mean, all i can say is that this is gonna sound pessimistic, all right? but thank goodness for midterms and scandals. they get more done than anything else you can imagine. i think just like matt was saying, this has been a long time coming. it s always a nice bow right before the midterms to be like, hey, remember that thing that i did, that i just did, you know? it s one of those things that is slowly moving. to matthew s point, the president as much as the president can do outside of full-on congressional sweep and a bill or something. i don t know. i think this is great. it just alleviates. we know now that a lot of the illegal status of marijuana was
come in donald trump and he dismantled the inter agency cooperations because it almost seemed like he didn t care. and this is a result of that. how do you build a system so that how do you do the inter agency collaboration, tracking militias. when they actually do something that is about our democracy, that s what we are starting to see with some of the results, individuals that actually participated in the january 6th hearings. then we also have to make sure that we are protecting the communities they are harming, that they are targeting. these roving militias matthew was talking about exist right now on the border, throughout arizona, throughout texas. you talk to marginalized latinos who have been on the ground, and they feel the brunt of it. we have to make sure that we are throwing actually creating spaces for people who are taking, basically becoming vigilantes
they picked somebody else. yeah, i think exhibit a would be donald trump. that guy lied his way through life and then when he got into office, nothing changed about what he was doing. matthew, let s talk about the election rigging and denying. this, obviously, is an existential threat to our democracy, to our country. this is far worse and then just supporting a bad candidate. this is potentially killing our democracy. yeah, it s a lethal to our democracy. if this is allowed to occur, we don t have a democracy anymore. if these people win secretary of state and attorney general and governor, in some instances, like pennsylvania, who gets to appoint a secretary of state, we don t have a democracy. if they can decide what the will of the people s no matter what the voters say in the course of this. i think it s incredible, incredibly relevant fluttery, this is, in where we are today. to me, this isn t fundamentally about what trump says on the lies he tells, and the crazy herschel wa