reporter: you have talked about this so much, kyra, and that is one of the programs that everybody is watching. the defense department spends billions every year on think of it as routine health care for the military troops. this is not for the wounded or injured in the war. these are active military personnel, their families, their dependents. this health care costs by any measure have been skyrocketing out of control. what they want to do is raise the co-pay that military members have to pay for their families to get this health care. that is going to be another political buzz saw for defense secretary robert gates. there s a lot of opposition on capitol hill. the military lobby is very strong. that s going to be another test case in his final six months or so in office. can bob gates, who so far has gotten almost everything he wants from congress can he get this, too, before he goes? barbara, we will monitor it