dropping testimony of officials talking about donald trump s will be talking to maxine i m s simon sanders and i have something to say. today millions of american women woke up with fewer freedoms than they had before. in the 30 allison s the supreme court overturned roe v. wade and took away our bodily autonomy, abortions are now banned in nine states with other soon to follow. oh no, at least half the country is expected to ban or severely limit abortion access. i wish i could say something to consult y all. i wish i could tell you that it s not as bad as you think. but i can only tell you the truth. the truth is, it s about to get worse, way worse. if you re watching this from a blue state, i m doing the show from california today, don t think you re safe, either. not only with these bands strain abortion resources nationwide, but republicans are considering a nationwide abortion ban in the very possible scenario that they retake congress next year. listen to wet nancy
but at this point, don, it s a negotiation, and i think the committee will do whatever they can to get that testimony out of cipollone. john, you ve been saying on this program and to anyone who will listen that you think it s critical cipollone testifies publicly like you did. are there legitimate privilege issues that would justify him testifying in a transcribed interview limited to specific topics? or should he appear in a more public manner? i think he s got to appear in a more public manner, and i don t think there s any privileges in that area they re focusing on. we ve already had courts look at the issue. there s no attorney-client privilege for crime or fraud. cipollone i think has a larger problem. he advised the president against doing these things because there were conspiracies involved, several of them. what s to say that he s ever declared he s not part of that conspiracy? if he s remaining silent he is certainly encouraging and enabling that done conspira
are there legitimate privilege issues that would justify him testifying in a transcribed interview limited to specific topics? or should he appear in a more public manner? i think he s got to appear in a more public manner, and i don t think there s any privileges in that public area they re focusing on. we ve already had courts look at the issue. there s no attorney-client privilege for crime or fraud. cipollone i think has a larger problem. he advised the president against doing these things because there were conspiracies involved, several of them. what s to say that he s ever declared he s not part of that conspiracy? if he s remaining silent he is certainly encouraging and enabling that done conspiracy, and he could get dragged in himself. i would think he d want to be up there, don, not only for the sake of democracy but for his own sake. so this is all a little bit mysterious, his behavior. i think i heard you loud and clear but just for clarification just to make
mike pence have asked in recent days about conversations with ump from, his lawyers and others in his inner circle who sought to substitute trump allies for certified electors from some states joe biden won. that s according to two people familiar with the matter, both spoke anonymously. prosecutors asked hours of detailed questions about meetings trump led in december 2020 and january 2021. his pressure campaign on pence to overturn the election and what instructions trump gave his lawyers and advisors about fake electors and sending electors back to the states. some of the questions focused directly on the extent of trump s involvement in this fake electorate effort led by outside lawyers including eastman and rudy giuliani and yet another sign of just how far the doj probe has advanced, the post is also reporting that prosecutors have their hands on the phone records of some key trump officials and aides including those of former white house chief of staff mark meadows. of
years. good morning. and welcome to way too early. on this thursday, june 30th. i m jonathan lemire. live from madrid, where the nato summit is under way. we ll have more on what is happening here in just a moment, but we begin with news from washington. the january 6th committee has issued a subpoena for the testimony of trump white house counsel pat cipollone. investigators are compelling him to appear for a deposition next wednesday, july 6th. it comes after the committee s repeated request for him to testify and one day after he was featured prominently in bombshell testimony from former white house aide cassidy hutchinson. cipollone sat for an informal interview back in april but in a letter to the former white house counsel, the committee rights in part, you have declined to cooperate with us further, including by providing on the record testimony. we are left with no choice but to issue you this subpoena. the committee states, it has obtained evidence about which