in. the fact is that was discarded and ultimately we got videotapes and they were able to present videotapes. so we went to the senate floor as a trial, and we had to be sworn in separately as jurors. we had to sign an oath. and as you saw on the video, the chief justice was there in his black robe with his gold stripes on the arms, and we started. and it was very difficult. i mean, it went for it started on january 7th, 20 years ago, and completed i think on february 12th. did that private room meeting you are referencing, did it have by the end a consensus? it did. and interestingly enough, the consensus was reached as i recall principally by ted kennedy and phil gram very different people with different political perspectives. so we came out of that old senate chamber with an understanding of how we should
tapes and they were able to present video tapes. so, we went to the senate floor as a trial, as a and we had to be sworn in separately as jurors. we had to sign an oath. and as you saw on the video, the chief justice was there in his black robe with his gold stripes on the arms and we started. and it was very difficult. i mean, it went for it started on january 7th twenty years ago and completed i think on february 12th. did that private room meeting that you re referencing, did it have by the end a consensus. it did. and interestingly enough, the consensus was reached by ted kennedy and phil graham, very different people with different political perspectives. no kidding. so, we came out of that old senate chamber with an understanding of how we should proceed.
security adviser, and then after that we went down to a short post-meeting huddle or debrief. were the investigations, the specific investigations that ambassador sondland referenced in the larger meeting also discussed in the ward room meeting? they were. what did ambassador sondland say? ambassador sondland referred to investigations into the bidens, burisma in 2016. how did you respond, if at all? i said that these requests to conduct these meetings was inappropriate. these investigations was inappropriate and had nothing to do with national security policy. was ambassador volker in this meeting as well? i don t recall specifically. i believe he was there for at least a portion of the time. i don t recall if he was there for the whole meeting. was this statement made in front of the ukrainian officials? i believe there was some
all 100 of us met in the old senate chambers and had an off the record discussion of how do we do this? some, for example, wanted to call witnesses into the chamber of the senate, bring monica bring monica lewinsky in, some of them said, so she can be a witness. well, the fact is that was discarded, and ultimately we got videotapes and they were able to have videotapes. as a trial, and we had to be sworn in separately as jurors, we had to sign an oath. as you saw on the video, the chief justice was there in his black robe with his gold stripes on the arms. and we started. and it was very difficult. i mean, it went for it started on january 7th, 20 years ago, and completed i think on february 12th, 20 years ago. did that private room meeting you re referencing, did it have, by the end, a consensus? it did. and interestingly enough, the
do more to essential wash their hands saying we re having these talks with the taliban now. i do think that s trump s policy, but of course he stepped on it with his shocking and inartful comments. het me ask you a question. the president will sometimes make statements like that with no basis just off the top of his head. but the fact he put a number on it, does it strike you that s a response, a strategy that the president brought up in a swaz room meeting with the pentagon saying, well, what if we just bomb the heck out of the place. absolutely, i was struck by that as well, jim. i m glad you brought it up because he used the same number, 10 million. he repeated a couple different times you wonder if it was stuck in his head, and remember that s not only the major gaff in that one short appearance. he also kind of shockingly first of all appeared to have lied about what the prime minister of india told him, volunteered