Im surprised the leader in russia. I said, thats interesting, because we never get that picture. Raising the Russian Orthodox church and backing it from a former communist regime. And we think that perhaps Church Attendance is going down in this country, but we shouldnt think that religion is not on the rise. Except for here. Its practically disappeared in europe, and we and yet, they just elected a woman bishop in the church of england, in the history . Yeah. But religion, not all denominations in europe, they have just about disappeared, and the decline i think since the 60s here, but some have risen. Pentecostal still goes strong and some evangelical churches some mega churches have had their problems. Driscoll out of seattle who had five churches, and had all this influence, but he is accused of plagiarism as well as bullying and a few other things, and he had to step down. So the mega churches still seem to be on the rise on the whole, but they have issues and problems. And we go
In their parish or synagogue or other institutions. Terrific. Awarded at st. Marks where is it . St. Marks is in the Civic Center Area above city hall. We collect cathedral hill. It is a parish that has been around for over 160 years. Weve been in that neighborhood for over 100 years. Its a vital active vibrant parish. Here in San Francisco. Youve been there 17 years . A long time. Not so long. Reverend. Makingyearold first First Presbyterian. Its in sacramento. One of the oldest still active questioned churches in california. Its interesting. Theyve been there for a good long time. Ive been the pastor for eight years. The first woman fulltime pastor. I like the people. Originally were for you from . I have been piedmont so i am from california. Ive been in the southern part of the west for most of my ministry but i love being back here. Its lovely where the rest of humanity. Elizabeth you are from where . I up in the bay area in menlo park. I know this area as well. Its good to be bac
And jim. Welcome back. You were so dynamic, both of you, that we were on youtube for the first time. Wow youtube celebrated its 10th Year Anniversary last month and they celebrated by having us on there. I didnt get any word that we went viral. I know a lot of people knew a lot about easter at that time because of you folks here. Hopefully theyll feel the same after hearing about pentecost. Before we do that carroll, tell us about your background and ministry. Okay. I am a native San Francisco, very proud to have been born and raised here in the city. I was close to golden gate park. I graduated from the Graduate Theological Union in berkeley. I serve as a chaplain for Palliative Care department of kaiser and i am also Senior Pastor at elmhurst United Methodist church in east oakland. Great. I am a son of the intermountain west, born in salt lake city, grew up in western colorado, college in oregon and ultimately graduated from American Baptist seminary of the west. I am chair of the b
Our lord. Its a great privilege to continue that theme with my good friend and colleague. Good morning ron. Great to have you jim. Its really good to see you again. Its been too long. You are a good friend of mosaic. You have been here before. I have been honored to be here before and i look forward to our discussion. Great. I know a lot of people know you in the bay area. There are always some guests seeing you for the first time particularly in my commune. Tell us a little bit about your background. I have been honored to be pastor at lakeshore Avenue Baptist Church for 26 years. I came in april of 1989. I am a native of salt lake city, utah, grew up in the mountain west, attended college of oregon and graduate of Pacific University in fresno. I am a graduate of American Baptist seminary of the west. I spent six years as associate pastor at the great first Baptist Church of los angeles near Downtown Los Angeles when i was there. We counted members from 28 Different Countries and our
About that. But coming out, and i think people expected violence and expected war and revolution and they got peace and forgiveness, so i think that is major, when we talk about forgiveness being so important to our faith. And i think it is very impactful for not just a church but also the world. And he is a great example. Mandela was the number one story of 2013 . Yes,2013 . Yes, as i look at it. And then pope francis. He was picked as the personal 06 the year because he is in the center of all of the major conversations of our time, conversations about wealth and poverty, about fairness and justice. About um, transparency and technology, the nature of marriage, the temptations of power. He does not have weapons, does not have that kind of power in that sense, but he has great power, every time he tweets, the world looks at it. You know, he just has that kind of influence. And what is your sense . Are you thinking that he is going the move, what we might consider positively on the iss