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as a lead in custody or leading to further information to narrow the spread of the islamic challenge that took the lives of the people that day. heather: should we hear from the obama s administration s chief tom donlan? that is very conspicuous. when you have a national security crisis, that is the person who sort of spans the white house and the national security system. in fact he wasn t the person to deliver those talking points instead of susan rice at the time. heather: thank you so much for joining us. gregg: i haven t seen a press secretary get beat up the way jay carney got beat up by the press corps since ron sigler dismissed watergate as a third rate burglary. there wasn t a single reporter to believe a word from jay carney was peddling. he lost a lot of credibility.