he thinks of it. here you are. it he will me what you think of this conversation. we ll talk on the other side. you told l.a. times last year that you originally envisioned the oath keepers as a cigar club of like-minded libertarians. what changed? i think it never really changed for him in his mind. i think the long goal all the time was to do something like what became. i think the libertarian side of things, sort of left-leaning libertarian, anything goes side of things, that was a pitch that he gave because there was a very large ron paul movement at the time. there was a lot of money. there was a lot of energy in the ron paul movement. and i think he wanted to absorb that. and eventually later he morphed a little more to the right. and a little more to the right. and eventually, you know, he s following trump and anything trump says and does. and i think that that was actually his plan all along.
people have better information, social media, technology, allows for citizens to be more active. so i think the women s march, i think these protests, i think the tea party, i think the ron paul movement, these are examples of the new politics. it s more democratized, it s more different. but i have to push back on this idea that thtea party was violent. i think this is one of the flaws of the current protests. i mean, particularly on the day before the inauguration, all the violence, all the broken windows, the burning cars, i think that turns off swing voters and ultimately any social movement has to appeal beyond its base. this isn t just about democrats protesting republicans. you re trying to impress swing voters, you re trying to attract
i think there are some differences and, of course, the tea party didn t show up in opposition to barack obama s policies until he started proposing policies and this protest actually started on inauguration day. i think that s a difference. i think this is a little more partisan. but i think there s a structural change. there s a paradigm shift where people have better information, social media, technology, allows for citizens to be more active. so i think the women s march, i think these protests, i think the tea party, i think the ron paul movement, these are examples of the new politics. it s more democratized, it s more different. but i have to push back on this idea that the tea party was violent. i think this is one of the flaws of the current protests. i mean, particularly on the day before the inauguration, all the violence, all the broken windows, the burning cars, i think that turns off swing voters and ultimately any social movement has to appeal beyond its base. this isn
dennis the menace ? get off my lawn, kid. is that the republican party? get off my lawn? mr. wilson was a democrat. i don t think so. i heard angry reaction to what the gop autopsy report might mean for the 2016 republican primary including fewer debates an earlier convention and voting via primaries, not caucuses. a rand paul adviser told politico, elimination of caucus would mean nuclear war with the grassroots, social conservatives and the ron paul movement. brabenber said i am troubled by the possibility of a condensed presidential primary process which undoubtedly gives an advantage to the establishment backed candidates and the wealthiest candidates. we have in the meet ya love the primaries. we in the media love them. those debates are wild. the craziest people out there. herman cain and his 9/9/9. you had bachmann. we want the full show. you elite party people want to hide the crazies. you want to hide the crazies. no, chris, i was the one who opened up the process
up getting a law that is passed, one person we mentioned with rick santorum that opposes immigration reform would be able to have that space and go after the rand pauls and marco rubios. he 13 hour filibuster. who would have thought he had the two top finishers with rand paul and marco rubio on board with the comprehensive reform. rand paul is the leader that ron paul never had. that last race that kelly o donnell reported on, it s no slam dunk at all that he would go on to win. he pieced that 35%. if he gets close to 50 and i don t think a lot of people are expecting that, he is in good shape for the april 2nd run off. he is around 30 to 35%. 60 to 65% who are anti-sanford