gleet all right i like to graying about the nerd i follow money, everything is money and money and is it all about money cavuto, yes it is. so i follow that money after a big debate to see where it is going relying on smart folks to tell me where that s going and where they think it will continue and gop fund raiser extraordinary mark penn former clean ton advisor brilliant, brilliant politico so begin with you on some of the early indications right now is that vivek ramaswamy had a good night and got a lot of money. ron desantis maybe because vivek taking incoming also had a good night. what do you make of that? well, look, i really think there are four credible candidates coming out of this. i think ron desantis although couldn t say had an amazing debate night. i think he held on to his own and seem to have picked up sol support got some good money out of that. ramramaswamy polarizing an
territory under its control. half of the russian combat forces in the russian military have been destroyed as a result of this war. that is quite a return on the investment in my view. neil: general when donald trump talks about he would settle this in one day ron desantis buys notion maybe this could be good money going after bad and much raimenter see it repurpose at the border vivek ramaswamy seems to be saying kind of that same thing there. obviously, it reflects skiddishness among those that want to be president. does that concern you? well, that isolationist view of solve problems at home and don t invest in global security which is the national security as a part that have has been in american pleks for years sometimes it is on a democratic side sometimes it is on republican side. i think most americans look at
for everyone that s looking for alternatives to donald trump. but if donald trump doesn t make the stage, you ve got to ask yourself neil whereby where all of these small donors going? and where is that base going and right now i think it s going to come down to the two which are desantis and vivek and right now vivek is showing that grassroots momentum. you you know let me ask you t small donors support and you know this more than i had and barack obama had this in his case against hillary clinton and that started with small small ds and donors period do you see that happening here to anyone of those candidates? no. i think they re all raising good low dollar money. but you know, back when i was working with hillary clinton even in 2008 it was five or 10 million after debate. they brought in a million they re showing good support it is the first time people saw them. you know, again, i think vivek
actually go out and meet american public where eve this to debate opponents. where we are distinguishing ourselves from the old soviet union, where the party would choose, you know, party neil: do you feel robert that part of it you re kind of a problem in that environment? not you individually but you re a man without a political island here that you have many in your own party many of your own family who are agas at running for president and challenging incumbent democratic president an you ve seem to be greeted with manien the right and appear on the joe rogen podcast, you have said you like a lot of what you ve heard out of vivek ramaswamy ron desantis as in the past suggested you as ideal fta head. that there does seem to be more interest in respect for you on the republican side than the
interesting to see how it develops over the next month or so with some controversial views. and nikki haley was really quite strong. right, and i think tim scott a little more subdued but still when i look at the washington post poll a lot of a lot of republican vote reverse still open to him. those four seem to be the go forward candidates to me. neil: interesting, noel some early sentiment reflects what mark said i had one guest earlier who said ron desantis secures his number one spot for being number two, and i wonder what you make of that. well, with respect to [silence] concept to ramaswamy like a tongue tie on this one, but with vivek what i am noticing is he s not criticizing donald trump.