saddam hussein or all of them exactly. they boasted about it. roger has this wonderful tattoo of richard nixon s head on his back when i interviewed him in 08, he was promoting to me trump a presidential candidate of course he immediately starts with stories of being in a strip club with various escorts. he played a role in taking down elliot spitzer when he was governor he loves to be known as a dirty trickster. he revels in that. he walks into rooms and says, is there anyone here i can spin before reporters the $50,000 question or $50 million question is will he turn on trump i ll give you each of you the chance to answer that question when it comes to it, the showman ship and showing his stomach doing the nixon fingers up which was weird. nixon was well-dressed when it did it he kind of did a thing he does all of that showmanship today, looking buoyant, but in the end when faced with real jail time, will he turn on donald trump i suspect he will
a significant number of indictments. former cia director john brennan made that prediction, a significant number of indictments by robert mueller in the next 60 days 20 minutes after a dozen armed fbi agents arrested former trump campaign official and longtime ally roger stone at stone s home in florida. meanwhile, on the same day roger stone was being booked in federal cork, shackled the at his wrists and ankles, trump s former campaign chairman turned convicted felon paul manafort appeared in court for a hearing in which muller team prosecutors told the judge manafort should not, not get credit for cooperating, which will be a factor in his sentencing roger stone is now the sixth trump associate to be indicted or convicted predictably today the white house claimed roger stone, one of the president s oldest friends and advisers, has absolutely nothing to do with donald trump roger s, you know, relationship with trump has been so interconnected that it s hard to define what s roger
what s donald, but it will be clearly a trump presidency i think it s influenced by stone philosophy joining us now is craig ungar, author of house of trump: house of putin, the untold story of donald trump and the russian mafia and back with us, tim o brien. okay craig, i m going to start with you on this. i want to play one more little byte from this great documentary, get me roger stone, which i highly recommend people watch in addition to reading your books here is manafort talking about roger stone and their co-relationship with trump did roger recommend you for the job? roger was one of the two or three people who strongly recommended me, yes. even after roger stopped being the principal political adviser to trump, he continued to be a very important adviser and is to this day. and now do we find out that not only did roger stone come up with build the wall, that was his idea he laid the themes, all the
congressional committees that were investigating this rather than lying that s one of the big open questions. part of the reason it s such an important one is that roger stone was pretty adamant, according to the indictment, in trying to push randy credico to reiterate to congress roger stone s version of events rather than saying what credico himself believed to be true. i ve communicated with credico extensively for the last year or so as i ve been covering this story. lots of talks on the record. one of the things i gleaned in conversation prior to this indictment is that credico seem to be concerned about stone and views that he has potentially some security issues that would be analogous to the concerns that michael cohen has telegraphed. that s something to keep an eye on as well. wow. joy, it just makes no sense why roger stone wouldn t come clean. again, this is a very open and shut case. he claimed that he didn t have any communications with the russians mueller has text
but i could be proven wrong. roger stone has spent the better part of the last year and a half thumbing his nose at the law and the law arrived at his front door this morning armed with battering rams and they took him into custody you know, one of the things i was talking to david corn, who wrote a very insightful piece today about this indictment. there is a missing element in this indictment. they did not charge him with a conspiracy against the united states for everything he was involved with, they ve got him on obstruction, they got him on tampering with witnesses, they got him lying to federal officials, but they didn t get him on the big charge, essentially being an agent for the russian government to undermine the 2016 election. why not? it s possible that mueller s team is keeping that card in their back pocket. yeah. they re going to say to him, there is more we can do to you. yeah. and we won t do it if you cooperate. interesting will he cooperate? i don t know.